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  1. Mondj
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    I've often wondered what motivates some riders to go for cruisers while others lean toward sport bikes. I personally like both but for different reasons. Guess to each his own.

  2. Suzhipiger
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    For most of my life, I was a pretty safety minded guy. You have to be when you've served on nuclear submarines where operating the wrong valve can kill everyone.

    Before I ever bought a bike, I always envisioned myself as a full-dresser kind of guy. I put off owning and riding for a variety of reasons, but eventually I got tired of waiting so at 36 years old, I bought a 28 year old sport bike from a co-worker.

    Now that completely screwed up every pre-conceived notion I'd ever had about motorcycles. When it was time to upgrade from my "training wheels", I was totally torn about what to get. I loved cruiser styling and hate today's "tupperware rocket" functional form, yet I was addicted to the rush of speed, acceleration and handling.

    Yamaha offered "conflict therapy" in the form of the Warrior, with low-end grunt and sport bike handling, and the VMAX, with even more of both. I bought the Warrior because I liked the style and the price couldn't be beat.

    I've done some horribly illegal things on my Warrior, yet it was comfortable enough to cruise 1600 miles in 4 days on.

    I'm not sure if that gives you any insight but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

  3. Mondj
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    Hi, Sushi, and hope you find a new pad soon. I guess my managing a Honda Bike dealership back in the 80's sort of gave me an insight in all types of bikes. I was also bootlegging Harleys out of Texarkana. As you say, have always loved the styling of the cruisers as they seem more like "real bikes" to my old 71 yr old brain. I was riding a Triumph Bonneyville from '06 to '08. Had it in the Triumph shop here in Waco and the only thing he had as a loaner was an '08 Tiger 1050 demo. Rode it and was amazed at the power and handling capabilities. Wound up trading the Bonney the same day. Also, like you, I love the bike but hate the looks of it. It's locked up in my storage shed and riding the 950T every day about 50 miles commuting to work and back. The thrill isn't there on the T but I love the bike and especially it's looks.

  4. ylvrikhd
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    I really like both styles, but being an old fart, sport bikes make my back hurt and it's kind of embarrassing to be standing in front of a judge with a 50 over speeding ticket at my age. I would ride a Harley Road King if I wasn't so vertically challenged. The 950 fits me like a glove and has plenty of power for everyday riding. In my case you have to make the best of what you have to work with.

  5. retzdarraiter
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    my son in law and my daughter both own cbr 1000's (honda) they are constantly telling me to ride em. but they are just too uncomfortable for an old guy like me. i like the styling of them and especially the busa. you have to respect the power they have.

  6. Goadlocger69
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    I love the quote:
    "If it didn’t feel like a monkey 'fornicating' a football I’d probably own a sport bike too!!!"

    But seriously the comfort of a cruiser is why I bought mine. That and I can't see myself bent over like you would need to on a sport bike for very long (and trust me, you wouldn't want to see that either!!! )

  7. Mondj
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    There is a big difference between (sport bikes parse) and "sport touring" bikes. The sport touring, which the Triumph Tiger 1050 I have, is an upright seating position and wide handle bars. Very comfortable and powerful bike, with a good windscreen plus hard saddle and trunk bags. The only problem I have with it is the 32.8" seat height (have had it lowered with lowering links) to 31" and dropped the front fork about an inc but still a little tall for my 32" inseam, not to mention my 71 year old legs. That Is why I chose to go to the 950T and will probably sell the Tiger next Spring. The "sport touring" category is more similar to the various BMW's, and they all have a rather tall seat height caused by the short wheel base but allows for great handling in twisty's.

  8. 4mrAkankmpr
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    After years of riding 'standards', when I finally decided to buy a new bike instead of waiting for time to repair my old bike, there were few 'standards' left. It seemed the only choices were sport bikes, cruisers and tourers. Suffering from 'Done lop' disease and remembering the stiff and sore neck from long rides on previous bikes negated the sport bike option. Financial situations ruled out tourers (plus intended use for commuting) so the only choice was cruisers. (Done lop disease- gut done lop over the belt)!

  9. einzdan
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    Last year I took my, then 25 year old, nephew on a 60 mile ride that is our bicycle route. Beautiful roads.

    He was on his crotch rocket, I was on my cruiser (a Suzuki C50 at the time).

    Around the 30 mile mark I had to "shake hands with my best man" and when my nephew got off his bike for the restroom break he said "Thank God, my back is killing me!" I told him I felt like I had been sitting on a sofa.

    I can't imagine my nephew riding that style bike in 5 years, let alone 10.

    I don't think it's so much our age that makes us choose the cruisers; they're just downright comfortable.

  10. ladeploomer
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    I always thought the "one hand on the hip" was some kinda freaky sportbike "tribal" thing, which kinda turned me off, but then I learned that it's a comfort thing. That turned me off even more! Just for experience sake I sure would like to test ride one, but I don't see one in my future.

  11. ylvrikhd
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    I think it has lot to do with conditioning. When my son was in the Airforce he rode back and forth from California to Arkansas twice on a GXSR 750 and enjoyed it. He was in very good physical condition and rode a lot. He just turned 40 last month and finally switched from sport bikes to a Suzuki T109 Cruiser.

  12. matcruser
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    I tend to ride everything "like I stole it" (hence my screen name) as such, I don't have enough control of my right wrist to own a sport bike

  13. micg10
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    my son-in-law and i went for a ride on friday, he has a kawasaki zx9r and me on my 650 classic and after a couple of hours of riding we stopped got off and was going to have a walk around but he had to do some stretches to loosen up before he could go anywhere. me being on the cruiser was ready to go straight away.
    when i was looking to buy a bike the vstar 650 classic was the only one to speak to me.

  14. VTvinChic
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    I thought they would be the world's most uncomfortable POS out there, looking so hunched over (and I can't get monkeys and footballs out of my mind!), but I had to quell my curiosity. I got to take one of the Yamaha sport bikes out for about 15 minutes (don't recall what it was, but it wasn't quite the low end, but definitely not top of the line). It wasn't as forward-leaning as those that are track-ready, yet not nearly as upright as a Bimmer. It was surprisingly fun. Spritely in handling and acceleration, very stable ride, shockingly comfortable riding position, but I could not get over the stiff suspension. Hands were good - very little vibration - but the rear shock was like sitting on a rock. I'm sure that's what they call sport tuned, but my backside is surely not tuned into that! Otherwise, I really liked the position and ride, and wouldn't mind having a cheap sport bike for short rides. I can't see 300+ miles at a clip, but for the shorter ones it would be kind of fun. I would miss the saddlebags, though. Do I hear a lowered FJR or even a Kaw Concours calling?

  15. flakkerbhil
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    For me it's comfort and the fact that virtually no one makes a "standard" bike any more (Triumph does, but that's about it). In the '70s and early '80s I rode the sport bikes of the day...which are now considered standards (Yamaha RD 400, Yamaha XS 500, Suzuki GT 750, etc). If someone would make a standard bike I'd probably go for one because I like the upright seating position, but todays sport bike just flat out hurts my back and legs. My 1300 T is just plain comfortable...and at 58 that's a big deal.

  16. tunc
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    hard one to answer this one

    ive had many types dirt/road
    and moved to the cruiser type for a bit more comfort and just want to ride along and enjoy the view
    not see it as a blur
    and i know that the cruisers all go well when ya want em to as well

  17. VTvinChic
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    Now I think about it, I had the same hasitation with bicycles. I never thought I'd like the 'traditional' 10-speed road bike type (the kind with skinny seats and curly handlebars) after having ridden mountain bikes. They always looked too strange and uncomfortable... Until I tried one. Now that's all I ride (when I ever feel motivated anymore).
    That's the danger with motorcycles, I've found. Once you throw a leg over, prepared to get hooked.

  18. MorkKW
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    re: I've often wondered what motivates some riders to go for cruisers while others lean toward sport bikes.

    No different than why some choose a new 'Vette over a new 2+2 sports coupe, or sports sedan. And, there are a hundred other like analogies. It takes us right back to, "which flavor of ice cream do you like best?" : ) None are necessarily bad, just different.

  19. Mondj
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    That's correct, Morg, however, I was referring to the animosity involved in the different choices. In other words, I don't care if someone likes chocolate and I prefer vanilla, but why some are so hateful if I ride a "whatsit" and they ride a "thingamajig". I still think a lot of riders don't know the difference between a "crotch rocket" and a good sport touring bike like my Tiger or say a BMW1200R. In fact, I didn't. I thought anything with it's tail up in the air was a "crotch rocket". Found out there's a whole different world out there with sport tourers. Triumph makes several "crotch rockets", the Daytona, the Speed Triple and Street Triple, as well as their retro version, the Thruxton. I don't care for those as the riding positions are not designed for my old 71 year old body. Never got a wave from a Harley rider when on the Tiger and thought things might be a little different with the 950T. Notta, still no waves.

  20. 4mrAkankmpr
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    Public perception is another matter- a hoard of streetbike riders holding up traffic on the highway while performing 'stunts' gives a bad message as (thanks to Hollywood) a bunch of Harleys on the road make some people uncomfortable. Myself, I agree with flakkerbhil.

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