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  1. grsjzsdof4
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  2. MusanabeelP
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    i have it installed works great!!! endless program code upgrades. i love it!

  3. Tuttle3
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    Not sure why you need "endless" program code updates.

    Once you're set up on the Power Commander, you're done. No other maintenance required...

  4. yhoower
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    Not sure why you need "endless" program code updates. Once...

    Same for my Fi2000. I haven't touched mine in months, once I got the bike running the way I wanted it was good to go.

  5. MusanabeelP
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    I change the exhaust......new code. i change the air intake........ new code... i changed the injectors..... new code....i changed tranny gearing and clutch ratio..... new codes.... have the bike set up to run on race fuel....new code.. i change stuff and these guys have it all dialed in! if you are like these guys and change one thing.. well ok dont ever touch the code and your fine... i think its funny on how many codes ive changed and the only way to tell if its running right is to put it on a dyno.... these guys have enough trouble changing there grips so what would they know about the bie running great with only 3 diff code settings. LOL good luck

  6. VRider
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    Does it really improve the performance that you could feel? Or calibration compensation for the changes?

  7. MusanabeelP
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    from the min i cranked it up!!! i messed the big code up the first time and had one number on zero and it was shooting fire out. one the right code is in its awsome

  8. WLS460
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    Everybody has there own preference as to what equipment they wish to run, but until you get it dailed in on a Dyno you really don't know what's going on in those cylinders.

    Unless you're a "Bike Wisperer" doing anything else is as I've said before a crap shoot.

    You really don't know if the mix is too rich or lean.

    Too lean - not enough power and running hot. Too rich - ruff running and not reaching full potential and still generating heat.

    So, tell me which out of the two scenero's is perfered? I would say none. Get some Dyno time.

    As far as no Dyno time maybe the PC V with the Auto-Tune modual?

    It would be interesting to compare a map created on a Dyno to an Auto-Tune generated map, but that would be a whole different topic all together.

    Now for the Vance & Hines fuelpak it is something I'll have to look into.

    But not to get to far off track I agree with MusanabeelP on that the bike has to be Dyno out and once you're dead on you'll feel it through out the powerband. And if your the type of guy making constant changes you would want a fuel management system that has more to offer than three knobs can.

    The makers of these systems is reducing the FI system back towards an antiquated carboration system. They refer to carborated stages in their discription of them and how they're to be adjusted. If you ever seen Dyno sheets based off FI vs Carborated you will see the FI system's curve is more free flowing, whereas the carborated system is on the choppy side.

    But it all gets down to what you want out of a system and how far are you're willing to go.

  9. SkdMige
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    I change the exhaust......new code. i change the air intake...........

    What brand and model bike are you riding? Tell me it's not a VStar 950, tell me that you didn't buy a cruiser and changed all that stuff to make a racing bike out of it. The only way you can tell if the bike is running right is to put it on a dyno? Nah!! if you're riding a cruiser the way a cruiser was designed to perform you don't need a dyno to tell you that the bike is running ok, the performance on my 950 tell me that it's properly set up. I don't need a dyno to tell me that.

    As quoted from:
    Vance & Hines
    Fuelpak Fuel Injection Management System
    for V-Star 950 '09-Up

    "Once installed, Fuelpak piggyback’s on your factory ECU to send a new signal for fuel delivery to the injectors based on the setting that we provide for your bike and pipe combination."

    That's what my Cobra FI2000 does.

  10. yhoower
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    what brand and model bike are you riding? Tell me...

    exactly!

  11. ciwilkuj
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    not to add fuel to the fire, but nobody can tell the difference between 12.5 and 14.5 afr.

    using a std fuel tuner is great, especially if the mods are minor (pipes, intake)

    when you want to really customize your ride is where the dyno helps a lot - or you could use data acquisition and have real time data as you are riding.

    who cares if pitbull went crazy with mods on his bike - regardless of the make and model. that type of creativity is needed, especially in our country where kids are happy to sit and play video games all day and not pass exams in school.

  12. SkdMige
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    not to add fuel to the fire, but nobody can...

    Agreed on this one
    using a std fuel tuner is great, especially if the...

    Also agree on this one.

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    When you want to really customize your ride is where the dyno helps a lot - or you could use data acquisition and have real time data as you are riding..
    But why would one want to do that on a cruiser/tourer? Wouldn't it be less expensive to buy one already hot?
    Quote:
    who cares if pitbull went crazy with mods on his bike - regardless of the make and model. that type of creativity is needed, especially in our country where kids are happy to sit and play video games all day and not pass exams in school.
    Are saying that MusanabeelP plays video games and didn't pass his school exams? Shame on you MusanabeelP.

  13. yhoower
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    IMHO. I think Mike's point is that if we were talking about high performance racing bikes that would be one thing but this is a forum for cruisers and the potential performance benefits received by some of the things that bitbullguy is suggesting just isn't worth the time or money.

    But if bitbullguy has the time and money, more power to him.

  14. SkdMige
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    IMHO. I think Mike's point is that if we were...

    +1. That's my point. But I like to stir the pot and be facetious every now and again.

  15. yhoower
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    +1. That's my point. But I like to stir the...

    That's one of the things I like about you Mike.

  16. WLS460
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    Well I found the fuelpak sight and tried pulling some maps, but didn't find very many ready and avalable for our 950s.

    http://www.fuelpakfi.com/fpmlookup_n...odelx=vstar950

    On exhaust after mfg sellection the following drop down only gives you one choice besides "other".

    It seems that anytime you sellect "other" you're refered to a standard forum to get your bikes setup and you have to wait for someone to contact you. That kind of leads me to believe that when you use that forum you're just getting someone's educated guess as to the settings you're to enter.

    I mean if everything was tested and dyno as claimed wouldn't the product be in the drop menus

    Is that not their selling point. You know leave the Dyno time to them.

    As far as selection on intakes the choices are not all that enormous either. Highflow meaning most open aftermarket products. Come-on they're all unique in some degree. K&N vs Paper has enough of a difference to merit changes in the map.

    I think it could be a good concept in time and the price is attractive enough, but they're not ready for the 950.

  17. bevo844
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    ...this is a forum for cruisers and the potential performance...

    because of the size of the 950's V twin and the affordable price of the bike, it allows us to customize it and try more things with it. i could have gotten a raider or a warrior if i wanted, but then i wouldn't have as much money to spend on customizing it. pluz, the HP is already there on the bigger more expensive bikes. it's a fun challenge to try to gain as much performance as you can. just because Yamaha designed these to be one way doesn't mean it has to stay that way. some people spend a lot of money changing theirs into a bobber. so if someone wants to do things with their bike that you wouldn't want to do with yours, like you said more power to them.

  18. ukmayhem384
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    Hi there guys, I put a set of Vance and Hines big radius 2 into 2 pipes on my 09' vstar 950 and im getting crazy backfire on deceleration. Do you think the Fuelpak will resolve this issue? A buddy of mine told me something about making some adjustments on the air injection system. Any help would be greatly appriceated.

  19. bill2458
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    ukmayhem384 i installed the same pipes on my 950 along with Barons BAK. I then installed Cobras Fi2000r, no more popping. Runs fantastic!!!

  20. ukmayhem384
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    thanks a million bill, ill give that a try and get back to you with the results...

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