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question on buying a new venture.

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  1. YASZ970
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    wife and i been tossing the idea around to buy a new bike next spring for our 20th wedding anniverary.i have 2 dealers near me with each having 1 2010 venture in the color ravan at the same price.19,629.00 or something like that.need help in haggling. i have bought many new cars from dealers but never a bike. always bought used from a private sellar.do they come down from the sticker? how much will dealers come down? they both also each have a 2009 in stock for about 1 grand cheaper than the 2010 model.doesnt seem to be any differance at all other than color and the extra year older.
    any input would be helpfull.thanks.

  2. Dissj774
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    As far as the 2009 model, I'm not sure but most likely the only difference is the color. Yamaha doesn't make a lot of changes through the years. As far as them coming down, it all depends on the dealer. When I bought my 1100 new the dealer had it for $9,700 a couple hundred over MSRP. I ended up getting it for $8,200.

    Look on eBay. There is a new 2009 Venture for $15,450. Black and red. Figure in about $500 for shipping unless you want to pick it up in Ohio. Deals like this are pretty common on eBay.

  3. Merlin595
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    Big bikes are not selling right now. Depending on the dealer you may not do better on a leftover, they may have been paying the interest on the bike for over a year now. If you can get a more current model they have more room to move unless they pay cash for their bikes.

    They will definately move off of the sticker as long as you are not trading. If it's a straight sale you should have some wiggle room. If you are trading they will either go retail/retail or trade-in/invoice. Bring in copies of ebay "buy it now" new bikes and see what you get. Personally, I'd be looking at going mid 17's for that bike. Go to KBB.com and see what they are posting for 09's, because even though it is "new" it's still only worth what the market will bear.

    On a large luxury cruiser in today's economy, they should be happy to be able to sell it. Don't be afraid to tell them what you want to pay, you may be surprised.

    For example, my RSTD was a trade in that my dealer wanted to move badly. Book on the bike was $9700. In the end I got it for $2K less than that. With the economy how it is and high ticket bikes sitting on the floor, they will deal. They're not Harley Davidson, you know.

  4. hik4z
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    wife and i been tossing the idea around to buy a new bike next spring for our 20th wedding anniverary.i have 2 dealers near me with each having 1 2010 venture in the color ravan at the same price.19,629.00 or something like that.need help in haggling. i have bought many new cars from dealers but never a bike. always bought used from a private sellar.do they come down from the sticker? how much will dealers come down? they both also each have a 2009 in stock for about 1 grand cheaper than the 2010 model.doesnt seem to be any differance at all other than color and the extra year older. any input would be helpfull.thanks.
    The extra 1000 on the 2010 is basically for the added chrome.. Personally I think you should be able to get the 2010 out the door for the MSRP price $19,690 and you should be able to get the 09 for 1000 under MSRP out the door. I know it is a long way away from you, but www.lakehillmotors.com in Mississippi has 09s out the door for $15,999 (of course their out the door does not include tax and title for out of state buyers) When I bought my Venture I showed them the lakehill price and mentioned I could drive there and back, pay for gas, food and a couple nights in a cheap hotel and still save $1500, and they knocked $1000 off, and at the time it was the current model year. Which after tax and title came to right at the MSRP.

  5. M28AMECH
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    Dealer markup over invoice is generally some where around $3000.00, so they have room to bargin and still make a profit.
    When I was looking for my 07, I knew there was one on the showroom floor of one of the dealers in Daytona listed at MSRP. I found the same bike in lake Wales (about 200 miles south) for $2500.00 below MSRP. Called the salesman in Lake Wales and asked him to email me a quote for the out door price. Once I got the quote , I forwarded it to the local dealer. I told them "I am going to but a Venture this week, I would like to keep my business in town. Will you match this price?" They gave me an out the door price just $50.00 over the other guy. Figured I could not drive 400 miles round trip for less than $50.00, including lunch, so I said OK. The next day went in to make sure the bike was still in good shape, point out any minor issues I wanted fixed, review the paper work and sign the deal. Gave them a check and told them to have the bike ready to pick up on the next Saturday at 9:30. Worked out very well, no bargining, no "I have to check with the manager", no high pressure sales, just in and out, easy peasy.
    So do not be afarid to try and beat them up a little.
    Good luck

  6. RSTDV1
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    Good advice all around for sure. Don't be afraid to buy used. I bought mine three years ago when it had 2,000 miles on it. Now, it has 24,000 and it hasn't missed a beat. The warranty is for five years and is transferrable! If you keep your oil changed I think 100,000 on this machine would be easy. I had the lower faring break and the dealer (G-Force Powersports) didn't even blink; just changed it out. Lots of good deals on e-bay.

  7. hik4z
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    Good advice all around for sure. Don't be afraid to buy used. I bought mine three years ago when it had 2,000 miles on it. Now, it has 24,000 and it hasn't missed a beat. The warranty is for five years and is transferrable! If you keep your oil changed I think 100,000 on this machine would be easy. I had the lower faring break and the dealer (G-Force Powersports) didn't even blink; just changed it out. Lots of good deals on e-bay.
    More good advice!!! Remember the Venture comes with a 5 year unlimited mileage warranty (from date of original sale) that is transferable. If you can find an 07 that was originally sold the end of 07 or early 08 it would still have three years of warranty left!! You should be able to find one for about $11k and of course blue/black is the best color.

  8. vaderpuk
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    I do know as of last sat my dealer had a new 08 S in the gray for 14,899 I think and its got a new wrty with it for 5 yrs. If interested look up westfield Yamaha in indiana. Good luck

  9. YASZ970
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    Saw a deal on ebay last night. 2009 loaded with 1200 miles for 10g.
    Located in virginia. I did notice though no warranty.seems to good to be true.gold and black. Ebay looks like an option come spring all though i have never bought anything from ebay.saw 2 other bikes that seemed like decent deals from dealers.

  10. hik4z
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    Saw a deal on ebay last night. 2009 loaded with 1200 miles for 10g. Located in virginia. I did notice though no warranty.seems to good to be true.gold and black. Ebay looks like an option come spring all though i have never bought anything from ebay.saw 2 other bikes that seemed like decent deals from dealers.
    If it is a Royal Star (Venture or Tour Deluxe) it doesn't matter if they say warranty or not, the 5 year unlimited is from the factory, and all dealers have to honor it. The only problem is finding a dealer computer savvy enough to get you listed as the current owner in the Yamaha system. Once that is done you can take it to any Yamaha dealer and they will show it under warranty for you until 5 years from the original purchase date.

  11. YASZ970
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    thanks high4s

  12. zarke172
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    at the end of the model year,the factory auctions off the leftovers.these sometimes come with no warranty,mechanical warranty,or full warranty.just depends on how much the buyer wants to pay for the machine---one with no warranty sells for less than full or mechanical only warranty.your dealer can run the VIN and find out what warranty the bike has.

  13. hik4z
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    at the end of the model year,the factory auctions off the leftovers.these sometimes come with no warranty,mechanical warranty,or full warranty.just depends on how much the buyer wants to pay for the machine---one with no warranty sells for less than full or mechanical only warranty.your dealer can run the VIN and find out what warranty the bike has.

    Your going to have to prove that to me... I've never seen any new motor vehicle of any kind sold new through a dealership that didn't come with whatever that year's factory warranty was. And all Royal Stars since 99 have come with 5 year unlimited mileage transferable warranties.

  14. zarke172
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    ask your dealer---a dealer is supposed to tell you how your bike is warranted--if you buy from an individual,even if it's new,it may be one with no warranty.

  15. hik4z
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    ask your dealer---a dealer is supposed to tell you how your bike is warranted--if you buy from an individual,even if it's new,it may be one with no warranty.
    Dealers don't know everything, some dealers don't know anything. I know a person that bought used Royal Star less than 5 years old and was told by the dealer that it had no warranty, at the advice of me and some others they called Yamaha corporate and found out the bike still had two years of warranty left. He went to another dealer, farther away, they got him entered into the system properly. ANY Royal Star Tour Deluxe or Royal Star Venture that was sold NEW less than 5 years ago is still under factory warranty, period!!! It is a completely different warranty than any other Yamaha motorcycle warranty.

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