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Oil Change on 1100 Classic

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  1. zammar
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    Hey all,

    I have an 08 1100 classic. I need to do an oil change on it but do not have a ORK. I cannot for the life of me get the pipes off of it and do the filter change. Is there any trick to removing the pipes?

    Thanks

    Mark

  2. 2WheelPik
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    How far into taking the pipes off are you? By that I mean, do you have all the bolts off and just can't turn it the right way to get it out? Or are you having problems before that stage?

  3. pajlineryohn
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    You gotta have something still connected. The exhaust should come right off as long as its been properly disconnected. After you do your first oil change you will gladly spend the money on the relocation kit. With the kit you can do the oil and filter in 15 minutes. without it (if your pretty good )1 1/2 hrs and lots of cursing GET THE KIT its worth every penny

    pajlineryohn

  4. yzcoodermac
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    There is a bolt on the bottom and a cap nut on the top.Make sure you got em both.Also check yer clamps and make sure they are loose.It should slide back and over the stud sticking out on the top.Good luck!!!

  5. LiddleBen
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    Just take the pipe loose at the head and loosen the clamp where the muffler meets the pipe. Then wiggle and jiggle til it comes loose. Reassemble in like manner. Use extra care not to loose the small O ring from the bottom case bolt. Save the swear words and get an ORK. You will be glad you did.,L.B.

  6. tunc
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    thought id bump this up
    how did ya go with it zammar you get em off and the change done

  7. khunder102
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    If I recall correctly (and I'm thankful if I don't; I put an ORK on my '05 Classic), there is extra pain associated with removing the pipes on a Classic. I think you have to also remove the floorboard bolts on the right side and drop the assembly out of the way. The rear brake master cylinder may also have to be moved out of the way. Then you can wiggle the pipes out.

    Do yourself a real favor, and install an ORK when you have it apart, so you don't have to do it again. You'll be glad you did.

    g

  8. Vzdar18
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    I also have an 08 classic and can send you some specific instructions for the procedure if you still need them. I found some on-line and tweaked them for my 08.

  9. beaze
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    I have a 07 you need to remove the rear mufflers than the one front pipe you do NOT need to remove and bolts from the floor boards. I have done 3 oil changes and would NOT waste my bike money on a ORK

  10. gzlant5
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    I just did my first oil filter change today, no ORK... I wanted to see what was involved, and after doing it I could tell you that even if a ork was only $50 I wouldn't buy one... It was no big deal, actually good to get under the pipe and clean really good every once in a whle. Also the filter was only $5 at the dealer. 3.17 qts of oil and off I went.... I removed the lower muffler (i have jardine slip ons) by one bolt and loostening a clamp, then one bolt to remove rear brake resovour out of the way, 2 nuts for the front exhaust pipe and a little twisty here and there and the pipe came right off. Then 5 screws holding cover on (not the 3 around the ymaha badge)... it sounds like a lot, but 20 minutes tops start to finish and it was my first time. I don't want to spend $250 and hope that there are no long term affects of the oil lines being too small etc.. no ORK for me!

  11. nikhdhavg
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    Yep I agree. Took me around 1 hour doing it my first time but now it's doable in under 30 minutes for sure. Definitely not worth spending the money on an ORK in my opinion.

    Removing and refitting the stock mufflers to the header pipe is probably the hardest part of the process. After removing both bolts holding the pipes to the support bracket and loosening both clamps at the connection between the header pipe and the muffler, you have to pull and twist and wiggle up and down till they come off. You also need to lever them up slightly to clear the stud on the top of the bracket initially. Refitting is easier with a spare set of hands as you have to line up both mufflers with both head pipes at the same time. Some people leave the header pipe manifold nuts loose while doing this to help slightly but I managed to do it alone with the header pipe nuts tight.

  12. crakman350
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    Removing and refitting the stock mufflers to the header pipe is probably the hardest part of the process. .
    Couldn't agree more. I was able to change the oil in little over an hour and I have no mechanical ability at all.

  13. gzlant5
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    For the record, it took me longer than 20 minutes, more like 40 minutes but I was taking my time, working very slow... its definately doable in 20 minutes though. I hate to exaggerat

  14. vakonman
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    Hey gzlant5,
    I'll soon be doing my first oil filter change on my 1100 Classic. Your comments are very encouraging. I'm not quite as intimidated as I was from reading all the reports from the much more knowledgeable and experienced guys on this forum than myself. I wonder if the great support for ORKs is to merely justify the expense of their purchases.

  15. Sduplyumbr
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    I have done oil changes both ways and although it doesn't take much to take the exhaust off and remove the stock oil filter it is still easier to just spin off the oil filter on the ork.

  16. nikhdhavg
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    Hey gzlant5,I'll soon be doing my first oil filter change on my 1100 Classic. Your comments are very encouraging. I'm not quite as intimidated as I was from reading all the reports from the much more knowledgeable and experienced guys on this forum than myself. I wonder if the great support for ORKs is to merely justify the expense of their purchases.
    I don't want to start the war that's been waged on other sites about the alleged/potential risks of the ORK regarding oil pressure and flow. Even if it was 100% proven that there was zero risk I still wouldn't purchase one as it's really just a matter of undoing a total of 11 nuts/bolts (if I remember correctly) and you can change your oil filter, 1 more and you change your oil too. If it had to be a weekly job I'd say the ORK is a godsend, but spending 30 minutes of my life every 6 months or so instead of 10 minutes (with the ORK) to do the oil change will save me a grand total of 10 hours over a 15 year period (assuming the bike lives that long!). People talk about the risk of stripping threads at the exhaust manifold studs, or the filter cover bolts. Use some common sense, WD40 before undoing rusty bolts, be gentle when tightening things, use a torque wrench if you really want to avoid the guess work. You also get to clean areas behind the pipes which you previously couldn't reach.

    The only advantage I see in the ORK is the lack of the necessity to replace the front exhaust crush gasket and filter cover o-rings with every change, though it's common to get away with a few uses on each.

    Obviously this is all just my very humble opinion.

    Dennis

  17. wzdartan
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    I agree with Dennis. No need to start a debate. I do have a ORK, as do thousands of other 1100 owners out there. I have done a huge amount of reading and research regarding the ORK's, and 99.99% of the bikes with the ORK's have had no problems with them.
    For me, it was just a simple matter of how I value my time. The fact that with my exhaust and a lot of other aftermarket exhaust the job becomes more difficult was a large factor in the choice.
    I also didn't like the idea of repeatedly removing and replacing the exhaust flange bolts into an aluminum head, or the chance that something on the bike will get scratched or dinged up while removing and replacing the exhaust (I work on my bike by myself about 99% of the time).
    I have no reluctance or grief associated with changing the oil now. It takes all of ten minutes. But.... if you dont mind, or enjoy spending your time behind a wrench, more power to you. Personally, I prefer to spend mine on the seat and in the wind.
    Dan

  18. RWilliamz
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    Just a thought on taking the bolts in and out of the head replace them with studs if possible that way you are not doing any damage to the heads I do it on all the water necks on my Chevrolet hot rods with aluminum intakes because that is the first thing to strip out also do it on the carb bolts

  19. gzlant5
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    Just a thought on taking the bolts in and out of the head replace them with studs if possible that way you are not doing any damage to the heads I do it on all the water necks on my Chevrolet hot rods with aluminum intakes because that is the first thing to strip out also do it on the carb bolts
    My bike does have studs for the exhaust, you just remove nuts to get the front pipe off, are others different?

  20. RWilliamz
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    I looked at my 650 it too has studs on the front pipe bolts on rear my mistake

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