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  1. unpitten
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    I had Amsoil 20-50 in the 13 and had put 3,700 miles on that oil change. The oil coming out didn't look all that great; makes me wonder if anyone should go 5, 6 or 8,000 mi on full synthetic.

    I think the 20-50 was a bit to heavy so I just filled it with 10w-40 Mobil 1 Racing T which is made for wet clutch motorcycles and far eaiser to find here in RI. It's raining right now so will have to wait and see if I feel and hear any difference. Yes, new filter also.

  2. drojm
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    I installed mobil 1 4t about two weeks ago, works great for me ,10w 40. I was wondering if I should of went with the heavyer grade.

  3. TSdar
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    I had Amsoil 20-50 in the 13 and had put 3,700 miles on that oil change. The oil coming out didn't look all that great; makes me wonder if anyone should go 5, 6 or 8,000 mi on full synthetic. I think the 20-50 was a bit to heavy so I just filled it with 10w-40 Mobil 1 Racing T which is made for wet clutch motorcycles and far eaiser to find here in RI. It's raining right now so will have to wait and see if I feel and hear any difference. Yes, new filter also.
    I've seen Mobile 1 Racing T at the local Wal Mart. May I'll try it for my next oil change also.

    Tony

  4. Carpon3
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    I have used the Castrol 20w50 motorcycle oil from Wal-Mart. The Amsoil up here is $15 L and thats more than I wish to pay. Yammy dealer told me to use the Castrol as its cheaper than the dealer oil and seems to be fine. I don;t put a lot of miles on it before changes. The clunk from 1st to 2nd is noticeably loud and I hear that Amsoil will help that but for $10 L I can deal with the noise.

  5. Carpon3
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    Do you guys buy your filters from anywhere besides the dealer? I'm sure there are many to chose from - any suggestions??

  6. unpitten
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    Do you guys buy your filters from anywhere besides the dealer? I'm sure there are many to chose from - any suggestions??
    I buy the expensive oil but I purchase SuperTech filters at Walmart. The ST filters are actually very good.

    Okay, did about 40 miles today once the rain stopped with the Mobil 1 Racing T (10-40). I will say this, I suggest that everyone avoid 20w-50 oils, synthetic or standard on our 13. It's not my imagination; the bike starts smoother and shifting is much more fluid.

  7. MorkKW
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    The Amsoil 20w50 is generally not recommended for our 1300. According to Amsoil, that oil is better suited for air cooled engines, e.g. Harley, etc. 10W40 Amsoil MC oil is proven to be exceptional for out bike and is preferred by almost every 1300 owner who uses Amsoil. I change when I'm close to 6k miles. Under "most" riding conditions, there is absolutely NO valid reason to change it sooner than this. This is proven info from studies taken and recorded. Some using Amsoil even change their filters every 4k and then their oil every 8k. Still, I "personally" prefer 6k for both.

  8. Carpon3
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    Outside of Amsoil should I use the 10W40 or ? stick with the 20w50?

  9. 9Sdarz
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    Morg, I see your title is The Credible Conch...does this mean if I hold you to my ear I will hear the ocean or will I hear a mighty V-Twin?

  10. unpitten
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    Outside of Amsoil should I use the 10W40 or ? stick with the 20w50?
    I'd stick to the 10w-40.

  11. MorkKW
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    13,

    If you do, beautiful tropical-like waters of the Atlantic & Gulf will magically appear inside your bike's radiator causing your bike to instantaneously run better than ever before. : )

  12. nvquatriterz
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    Dumb question of the day...

    Doesn't the manual say to change the oil at every 2K miles, and the oil/filter at 4k mile intervals??? With a wet clutch our oil is always going to look pretty crummy due to the clutch fibers contaminating the oil a bit. 2K miles is about 40 hours averaging 50 mph. 40 hours is overly long on a dirt bike or atv engine to go without changing fluids... so I'd think it would also be pushing it for a larger displacement v-twin motorcycle engine.

    I'm about to hit 2k miles since my break-in service. I planned on changing the oil, just to take a look at it. I'll have a filter on hand just in case it looks dirty... but I'm curious what folks' oil looks like after going 5 or 6k miles? It seems like you're pushing it a bit. And for the relatively low price of the oil/filter (compared to a rebuild, or a new clutch)... I'd rather change my oil prematurely than risk damage to my engine/internals.

  13. VTvinChic
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    We took both the 1300 & 950 in for service last week. The 1300 came back with 10W-40, while the 950 had 20W-50. The 1300 is doing great, but I'm getting a little extra tapping and whining on the 950 that wasn't as pronounced before.

  14. Carpon3
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    There are no tropical like waters anywhere in the Atlantic where I live. My brother was diving last weekend in -1 celcius.

  15. unpitten
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    Dumb question of the day... Doesn't the manual say to change the oil at every 2K miles, and the oil/filter at 4k mile intervals??? With a wet clutch our oil is always going to look pretty crummy due to the clutch fibers contaminating the oil a bit. 2K miles is about 40 hours averaging 50 mph. 40 hours is overly long on a dirt bike or atv engine to go without changing fluids... so I'd think it would also be pushing it for a larger displacement v-twin motorcycle engine. I'm about to hit 2k miles since my break-in service. I planned on changing the oil, just to take a look at it. I'll have a filter on hand just in case it looks dirty... but I'm curious what folks' oil looks like after going 5 or 6k miles? It seems like you're pushing it a bit. And for the relatively low price of the oil/filter (compared to a rebuild, or a new clutch)... I'd rather change my oil prematurely than risk damage to my engine/internals.
    Once the break in oil is out, the manual reads every 4 thou miles and filter change ever 8 thou. There is a "Periodic Maintenacne" chart on page 6-6 of the U.S. manual. I always change the filter with the oil change.

  16. nvquatriterz
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    Once the break in oil is out, the manual reads every 4 thou miles and filter change ever 8 thou. There is a "Periodic Maintenacne" chart on page 6-6 of the U.S. manual. I always change the filter with the oil change.
    Yep.... I didn't have that manual handy when I replied yesterday. With 2 quads and 2 bikes sitting in the garage, it's hard to keep the periodic maintenance intervals straight in my head. I guess I'll just follow their recommendation. It seems a bit long, but if I'm going 4K miles, I'm definitely changing the filter at that time.

  17. MorkKW
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    RE: Doesn't the manual say to change the oil at every 2K miles, and the oil/filter at 4k mile intervals???

    Yammy "suggests" that, after 600 miles, the oil be replaced every 4k miles and the oil AND filter every 8k miles. I'm one of many who don't buy into this schedule, not to say one's engine won't last next-to-forever if they follow Yammy's suggested schedule to a "T," as it very well may.

    Anyway, back to my point .... if one changes to a "full" synthetic MC oil, it doubles the time/mileage intervals between oil changes. For example only, many using Amsoil change it every 5 to 8k, with some of these same individuals changing their filter every 4k and their oil not until 8k. As my "personal preference only," I change both the oil & filter at approximately 6k miles, using only Amsoil...both their oil & filter. I'm sure I could wait a little longer, but I also know "sometimes" sooner can be better than later, and to me, the increased intervals provides very cheap insurance for maintaining an excellent running and internally clean engine. The 6k interval vs 8k interval means only that I'm changing the oil & filter one more time every 24,000 miles, the cost of which is very insignificant over that period of time.

    Make it a great week.
    Morg

  18. nvquatriterz
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    Of those folks running full synthetic, how are your clutches holding up??? I know that you need to run an oil meant for a wet clutch... I was just wondering if any of you guys going 6K between changes have had to change out a clutch yet?

  19. MorkKW
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    The advantages are with the full synthetic in every area, but one, that being its cost. But, considering it lengthens the intervals between oil changes, the additional cost factor becomes a non-issue.

    Next, full synthetic MC oil is better for our wet clutch than a non-synthetic, or partially synthetic oil, plus the full synthetic oil helps "slightly" to lessen the clutch noise while also allowing for "slightly" smoother shifting. Just the facts, sir....just the facts. : )

    Take care.
    Morg

  20. zjlwanb1
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    My yamaha dealer in illinois told me to use 20w50 , thats what they put in 1300s when people bring them in to change oil. So i use 20w50 mobil one, and the only difference i notice is the loud clunking when shifting to 2 nd gear. I think next oil change ill try the 10w40 mobil one and see if the hard shifting goes away. you can get both pretty easy at walmart. for filters the yamaha dealer charged me 23 dollars so i use fram 6017a with no problems.

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