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  1. krallen1
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    Hello All,

    I know I'm getting in on the tail end of things but I thought I would put my two cents in. I recently bought an 09 Raven Raider. I looked at a lot of bikes before buying. These bikes I thought compared in price as well as features Kawasaki 1700 LT, Harley Super Glide Custom, Victory Vegas 8-ball and of course the Raider. I guess I really did not look at anything Suzuki but I'm sure they have an equivalent. All the aforementioned bikes had different pros and cons. I chose the Raider because I liked it the best not because I needed the approval of anyone else.

    I have riden with lots of different guys with lots of different bikes. The group I ride with now have 2 Yamahas, 2 Harleys, 3 Kawasaki's, Honda and a Victory. I think its great to have the different kinds of bikes riding in a group. I think we all as bikers we need to stick together and enjoy the ride. Just think how boring it would be if we all rode the same bike. Sorry but I get sick of the old were better than you or we are flashier or faster talk. I'm getting off my soap box now thanks for listening.

    Keep the rubber side down.

  2. zoudherngomferd
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    I don't ride a raider. (Can't really afford one.) But everyone who knows me can tell you that I'd buy one in a second if I could. It would be my first choice. My #2 bike would be a Victory Vegas Jackpot. I ride a new 950 Vstar and it is a great bike. The best new bike I could afford. I think the reliability of Yamaha bikes is unbeatable. I like some Harleys but I'm sure I'll never own one. Way to many other bikes I'd rather have, copycat or not. I dont mind buying a copy version if it was copied and then improved on. Like my 950. Copy and improvement on the Vulcan 900. = my gain.

  3. Ghozd608
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    Hello All,I know I'm getting in on the tail end of things but I thought I would put my two cents in. I recently bought an 09 Raven Raider. I looked at a lot of bikes before buying. These bikes I thought compared in price as well as features Kawasaki 1700 LT, Harley Super Glide Custom, Victory Vegas 8-ball and of course the Raider. I guess I really did not look at anything Suzuki but I'm sure they have an equivalent. All the aforementioned bikes had different pros and cons. I chose the Raider because I liked it the best not because I needed the approval of anyone else. I have riden with lots of different guys with lots of different bikes. The group I ride with now have 2 Yamahas, 2 Harleys, 3 Kawasaki's, Honda and a Victory. I think its great to have the different kinds of bikes riding in a group. I think we all as bikers we need to stick together and enjoy the ride. Just think how boring it would be if we all rode the same bike. Sorry but I get sick of the old were better than you or we are flashier or faster talk. I'm getting off my soap box now thanks for listening.Keep the rubber side down.
    This is all just my Honest Opinion,

    When I bought my 08 Raider, I could have bought any bike I wanted. First thing in Choosing I wanted something That caught everyone's Eye, Was Unique, something different, But at the same time something I could ride across the country on and be comfortable. H.D. Street glide, and other H.D. are nice, but everyone has one, Victory Jackpot I almost bought! Big dogs etc, where not across country bikes, scratch them, Yamaha Stratoliner, close but did not meet the sporty look I wanted, Honda 109 Nice bike, just not right, etc etc etc, Yamaha Raider, Unique, Head turner, more power than you need stock in a cruiser (No upgrades needed, like the H.D. and a screaming eagle $$$$$) The Raider was as I said Unique, basically the first Production Retro Chopper made, and defiantly turned Heads!! Its been dependable 17k miles nothing done except plugs, and Oil. And has been called a custom, a H.D., a Victory, Just about everything, from people when they first seen mine.

    So I am Currious how can you call this a copy???? I want to see the Origanal, couse actually all the other above bike Manufacturers are now playing catch up to Yamaha making there version of the Raider, whith even the same add slogan, There is no other Stock bike "Production Bike" currently made that can stand up to the Raider. So when it comes to the Raider it is the Origanal, not the copy, Yes Its Metric, So is a V-Rod, and all of the other New H.D. Metzler tires are on the majority of Bikes, they are not U.S. made, Mec. Carb. and Throttle bodies are not American made, and there are no U.S. Steel fabs. that have Metric Dies, So I guess if you ride a H.D. V-Rod, you are riding a rice burner, Jap bike or what ever!!!

    What I am trying to say all of the above bikes are nice bikes, not one of them is better than the other for all people, I not only like my Raider but Love it, but thats me. Why can't we all put this issue to rest of H.D. or what ever being American made..... My H.D. Boots are made in China. Its time to accept that all these bikes are nice, and there is not 1 that is better than the other for all people, Thats whats so great about this country, we have a choice of all of them.

    Ghost

    P.S. I agree with you krallen1.............100% As there is no such thing as a completely American made bike anymore.... And these are all nice rides. These arguments get old, I think every post gets side tracked to this.

  4. Squando
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    1885: Gottlieb Daimler patents what is generally considered to be the first true motorcycle. Daimler, the automotive pioneer usually associated with building the world's first successful internal combustion engine (and, subsequently, the first automobile), staked his claim of priority in the two-wheeler world a year before developing his famous auto. However, the idea of a motor-driven, two-wheeled vehicle did not originate with Daimler, nor was his the first such contraption to see the road. Sylvester Roper, who spent the U.S. Civil War working in a Union armory, built a primitive "motorcycle" as early as 1867. Roper's supporters -- and he has more than a few -- argue that he should be credited with building the world's first motorcycle. The first pic is Daimlers gas powered "Motorcycle" German developer that brought you Mercedes. The company was named after an Austrian girl Mercedes Jellinek. Second pic is of the "Steamcycle" First two wheeled non-human powered bike.
    Steam or gas, it's still a motor and therefore a motorcycle right? Daimler copied Roper who actually just copied the bicycle and just made a small improvement so you didn't have to peddle it. Many of Edison's 'inventions' were merely improvements of existing technology. Even the light bulb was known before Edison came along but it wasn't very good. Maybe the Edison Foundation should claim ownership of the LED as it is just a copy.

  5. kamezbanger
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    Did I tell yall my Porche is in the shop???

  6. LozdDok
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    Helluva way to welcome a new person to the forum.Welcome, dobzbin, and good luck on your purchase.
    I was thinkin the same

  7. JAG91
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    I think Steel was just yankin everyone's chain.

  8. THUNDER160
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    The raider is the bike harley couldnt make are the one they wished they would have built......

  9. Pjro124
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    What really cracks me up about this thread, well two things.. First, all the copying crap, it is really funny how the Harley guys (no offense, I was one) first response is "why buy a copy?" to pretty much every other V-twin out there. Now can anybody out there show me a stock Harley that has the looks, the engine size, and the all around reliability of the Raider? If there was one, I would have bought it.

    And the second thing about this thread is the whole copying concept in general... Do you see Honda, Yamaha, or Suzuki, or even Buell sport bike guys saying crap like, "Well why buy that GSXr copy when Honda invented the sportbike??"...

    Come on, the copying concept is done by Harley people that are too upset because people choose a different manufacturer then the one they bought...

    I love my Raider, I wouldn't have bought it if I didn't, and if someone comes up and tells me why I bought a copy, well... Like I said... "Show me a harley like this and I would have bought it..."

  10. dobzbin
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    I was thinkin the same
    Again I'll say that this was both expected and enjoyable. I am 54, successful and appreciate all opinions. I love my Harley Wide Glide but I am so sick of constant warranty work and expensive services. I am a motorcycle enthusiast... not a "Harley Guy".

    I am not looking for a welcome into this forum. As an open minded educated person, I appreciate all of your posts!

    Keep 'em coming!

    Tonycantwaittotestdrivetheraiderdobzbin

  11. micg10
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    Again I'll say that this was both expected and enjoyable. I am 54, successful and appreciate all opinions. I love my Harley Wide Glide but I am so sick of constant warranty work and expensive services. I am a motorcycle enthusiast... not a "Harley Guy". I am not looking for a welcome into this forum. As an open minded educated person, I appreciate all of your posts! Keep 'em coming! Tonycantwaittotestdrivetheraiderdobzbin
    I hope all the "harley bashing" hasn't change your mind about this forum, you will find alot of helpful serious people here and what ever you decide to buy "ENJOY IT".
    cheers mick

  12. 1CuzdominFL
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    Not to get into a metric vs harley battle (I do like the fat boy and the fat bob) but my buddy's street bob spends more time in the shop than on the road. We're supposed to be riding tomorrow, except his is in the shop waiting on master techs from Milwaukee to come down and figure out why it won't run right.

  13. zoudherngomferd
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    Raiders, there grrrreeeeeaaaatttttt! Just like frosted flakes.

  14. zaldjtok36
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    I put the Memphis Shades 20" or was it 21"? up front. I have it adjusted all the way down and raked back. I think the quick release mount kit and shield are around 300 bucks. The Cobra Dragsters ran me about 425 delivered to my front door. And the "patent pending" "fairly" quick release saddlebags were around 150 counting hardware. Sounds like the info ya asked for?

  15. BumplepeeBop
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    Not to get into a metric vs harley battle (I do like the fat boy and the fat bob) but my buddy's street bob spends more time in the shop than on the road. We're supposed to be riding tomorrow, except his is in the shop waiting on master techs from Milwaukee to come down and figure out why it won't run right.
    98% of all Harleys made are still on the road.

    The other 2% actually made it back home.

    JUST KIDDING!!!!

    It was a joke I heard the other day and just had to pass it on.

  16. Pavbj
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    This thread is like a horse with 3 broken legs. Somebody needs to put it out of it's misery.............

  17. kman
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    Hey enjoy the thread Pavbj, or don't read it. Some of us find it interesting.

  18. Pavbj
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    Hey enjoy the thread Pavbj, or don't read it. Some of us find it interesting.
    Six pages, one topic, a hundred or so opinions. Now, let me get this straight...........
    Enjoy it or don't read it? Sorry pal, my mom passed. I don't need your reprimands nor your instructions. It's my opinion the thread is dead. I have others, also. Have a nice day.

  19. Vindakecar15
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    The current issue of Cycle World magazine mentions Harley considering producing a V4 engine.
    Well, gee... I'd rather have the original rather than the knock off, wannabe!

    Those damn "Jap Bikes" have been making V4's for quite some time now.
    I guess Harley had to go and copy someone else, eh?

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!

  20. kman
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    Six pages, one topic, a hundred or so opinions. Now, let me get this straight...........Enjoy it or don't read it? Sorry pal, my mom passed. I don't need your reprimands nor your instructions. It's my opinion the thread is dead. I have others, also. Have a nice day.
    Didn't mean to get under your skin and it wasn't a reprimand. It was an instruction though as I have learned over the years to not do something I don't enjoy.

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