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  1. Bikyohn3608
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    For me the Raider fits and I consider it to be one of the best bikes I have ridden by far for the application that I use it for. I hop from town to town, make some noise, make the boys jelous as there girls friends hop on and dont see them again till after breakfast. Man I love this Bike![/quote

    Ride on brother man i love this post

  2. SecredSquirrel
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    I have a Honda Goldwing 1800 and a shiny new Radier. I love both bikes, enjoy the hell out of every ride I take on them, and couldn't give a rat's red ass what emblem is on the side of the bike or what other people say about them. They're mine, paid-in-full, and quality machines. What more could you ask for?

  3. dobzbin
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    Helluva way to welcome a new person to the forum.Welcome, dobzbin, and good luck on your purchase.
    It's all good Pavbj... I may be new here but I have around 1200 posts on the Harley Forum. 1000 more before that on Honda. I know what to expect and enjoy the banter! It's way better than the s**t my SO is watching on TV!

    Besides... looks like I got things rolling again. A new guy will do that you know... by asking the same questions that have been answered before!

  4. TrojRaiter
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    Well, say what you want, but most of us bought the Raider because of it's LOOKS, POWER and RELIABILITY. Plus the price was a Hell of a lot less than a Harley. One thing I really like is that you are not stuck paying a dealer a lot of required after purchase service money.

    I paid $13,200 for my '08. It was hard to deal on price when everyone was sold out of the Raiders. That alone tells ya something about the Raider.

    I have Memphis Fats 17" windshield, (had the National Deflector but needed something bigger), Cobra Slashdown pipes with THUNDER160 Monster baffles, Cobra FI2000R, Corbin Dual Tour Seat, Cobra Sissybar, Baron's Starbars.

    The Raider is a great cruiser. Not quite as comfortable for 2 as a Goldwing, for real long trips. But it is a REAL HOOT to ride!!!

  5. TrojRaiter
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    One question, I saw a History Channel TV program about Harley-Davidson motorcycles. They stated that HD sent designs and parts to Japan to start the motorcycle industry over there. So, does this mean that the Jap bikes and Harleys are related? Just food for thought.

    And welcome aboard dobzbin. Sorry, but we sometimes get a little defensive when it comes to the Raider.

  6. ltpaise
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    Welcome dobzbin! I have rode Harleys all of my life and my Dad before me! SO I will not participate in a Harley bashing, but the cost vs. what you get is getting pretty outrageous. The Raider "fit" me perfectly and I loved the look, performance, and once I rode it, the way it handles. I don't think you would regret the change, but I would go take a test ride. It is quite a bit less than any Harley and it is a great bike. Quality has been great! I have taken all markings off this bike and I get allot of questions as to what make Harley it is? You will need to change the pipes as it is much too quiet! LOL! Good luck and let us know what you decide.

  7. chillin4
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    I'm all about Harleys. Love them. Price tag....hate it...and it's not just the up front costs, but all the accessories that are outrageous as well. Once you go Harley, you gotta get everything harley from gloves to jacket to helmet....it's just rediculous. Harley capitalized on middle school technology called peer pressure and gave them a great bike to ride as well. That said, Yamaha is trying to do the same...which is dumb, but they gotta make money right? The selection of gear is still limited....but the common rider isn't expecting everything you have on to say Yamaha or Star on it. So I can let that slide.

    I must say that I've ridden quite a few bikes, but the Raider feels the best out of all of them. Obviously, that statement is fact only for me....however I'm sure there are many other people out there that feel the same. I never even took a look at the raider until my father in law was bragging about how nice his roadliner felt and the raider was even better. One good look at it in the dealership and I've been in love ever since.

    Even so, everyone I ride with has Harley...and I gotta say it is like a brotherhood. Everyone's helping each other out with anything they can from gear to parts to accessories. I just like being the odd man out who's got that smirk on his face cause he knows something the other people don't.

  8. yjmmjyajmez
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    To Vindakecar15'sIt's a fine knock off and most people will enjoy a copy almost as much as the original. Hey I own a few of the knock offs myself and I'm pretty happy but NOTHING and I mean NOTHING beats a well built big American twin. We have a local drag strip where I can send any Jap twin home with a lose. RC51's included open every Sunday and run what you brung. If you have never rode a big American twin that's been built you are missing out. And just because you like the Raider don't make it all that. But be honest it is a copy of an American icons product
    Ouch baby, very OUCH.

  9. kamezbanger
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    When the cats away the mice will play I guess.

    Steel, it is kinda jerkish to come on a Raider forum and knock it. I mean come on. Your veiw point was not valid or constructive. Compare quality or horse power or realiability or price or something...but your statement was basic at best.

    Saying: "I like my Night Train better than my Raider" would not have caused a stink and no one would have said anything, but I think you overdid it with the knockoff comment.

    I like a Harley...and yeah, they came up with the "soft tail" look...big deal, why is Yamaha a knock off? Some might say H-D is a knockoff for stealing the V Twin.

    I always thought that one idea of being a biker/rider was to be a little rebellious. In todays riding world...and even more so ten years ago...a dude that would ride a metric cruiser had to be going against the grain because of people giving them crap for riding a "Jap" bike. Today, I look a SOME H-D guys as lemmings. The whole "fit in to get in" thing. Worse than that are the people without bikes talking shit about metric bikes.

    I do like H-D and if I ever get to a point in life that an extra $15K is no big deal, I may consider owning one. My personal favorite is the Road King Classic.

    Having said that I save all further judgement to those that I have met.

  10. tezerdhi
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    I have rented every new harley except the rocker and all I can say is...blah blah on what ever this guy is saying. If anything is a wana be it's the harley (mostly made in china and elsewhere) that would wanne be more of a reliable, well built bike like the raider....but they really fall short in a lot of areas! Riding my raider I sure don't feel like the thing is constantly falling apart like you do on a harley. Just my 2cents

  11. zdeelmachinesero
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    I like a Harley...and yeah, they came up with the "soft tail" look...big deal, why is Yamaha a knock off? Some might say H-D is a knockoff for stealing the V Twin.

    Lets see I own 3 Yamaha raiders and Yamaha Warrior and 8 Harleys of all sorts and years, and have worked for both Yamaha and Kawasaki and some work with Harley so I'll give you an honest reply

    Air Cooled Narrow Push Rod Activated V-Twin that's belt driven that Yamaha copied is a direct rip of the Evo twin. Now that's not saying it's a bad copy. Its not, it's a fine copy but a copy none the less. I mean with all the technology at hands of the Yamaha Factory Look at the first generation of V-Twins it released. (roadstar 1600) A pushrod activated air cooled narrow v-twin in today's world is a dinosaur and especially by Yamahas factory standards but they knew if the cloned a Fatboy and got the look right that they would sell a million of them and they have. Before the Harley boom if I told you. I have an engine that's 1600cc's and is air-cooled and makes 45hp at the rear wheels, Yamaha would have laughed me out of Japan.

    You are aware that the Transfer case on the Raider and The Warriors and the Roadstars and The Liners serve no function other than to LOOK EXACTLY like the Primary case on the Harley. Seriously they are so useless that the are removed for drag racing and serve no purpose other than to looks just like the Harley Primary set up. That wasn't an accident it was a design cue. Or what we call in the biz a copy

    I mean can anyone honestly and say that the Roadstar engine and bike isn't a brutal rip off on Harley. Especially when the Harley wanting list as 9 months deep as it was in the 90's? Heck I was freelancing some work for Yamaha USA in 1996-1998 and I can tell you that they owned a dozen Harleys Softtails and fatboys trying to figure out why it was such a sales hit. I can remember going into Tom Greenly's office and seeing more Harleys on the wall than Yamahas. And even then him saying we want some of that big twin action.... So yeah I know a thing or two about the copy situation.

    So how many Air Cooled Narrow Push Rod Activated V-Twin that are belt driven were there before the Harley boom of the 90s? Other than the Harley not a one. How many now? quiet a few do you think the Japanese that are one of the most technical advanced society's on the planet just decided to step backwards in time for a fun time. Or did they realize that that the Harley people were onto something here? I mean it's not like they looks back into there own past for an Air cooled narrow push rod activated V-Twin that's belt driven. Because they dint ever have one. They were masters of the sohc and doch inline four engine. And yes I would say the same thing if Harley suddenly came out with the a DOHC inline four. I would say they are coping the Japanese

    On another forum, Busa painted his Raider again, this time Orange.Here's the brilliant helpful comments from Steel:"Harley Racing OrangeWell at least you got the color right. and no harm no foul its good to practice on these cheap jap bikes before you get a real bike"Geeze, Steel..... are you capable of saying anything productive on this site?All you do is slam the Raider, and the people who choose to ride themGet a life man.
    LOL thin and yet so supple skinned these yups be. Oh and that from the other site is me and busa joking around we did it on the Liner board the Triumph board, the Busa board, and a few others

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    Let Steel have his opinion....he's not wrong, you're not wrong...and I'm definitely not wrong......I should go work for the democratic party!

    I can appreciate anyone who owns multiple bikes and give an honest what's what about them. Heck..I have a street bob in my garage right now too! Get out and ride!

    You maybe the rightest of the right at least here anyway

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    Hey, Steel! You have to many bikes! Can I have one of your Harleys?
    Well you can't have one but if you're ever this way you can come check out the garage from hell and play around. I have a 48 Harley UL about done and an Old 1947 Indian Chief Roadmaster . With a rebuilt engine. ’74 cu. In. all about done the Original metal tanks, fenders, speedo, front headlamp, tool box are about done and the painter should have them done anytime now but you never know with painters

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    Steelmachine. I am baffled. You state that you own 3 Raiders. My question is why? You don't seem to be to impressed with them and you bought three! I only know you by what you write and from what I see here you are not very bright.
    Well I bought a Tommy Blue S for myself it's all happy in its chromey goodness. Then I bought a friends Blue S that she didn't fit on right I made that a drag Mule with a 120 kit and some reground cams and did some PCV tuning on. That's the beater wheelie bike, then I bought a red S wrecked on EBay that I am chopping the hell out of 4 up and 3 out with an 8 over perse front end. But that's just an on going project. And I never ever once said that I wasn't impressed with them they just aren't all that and really today you have to look for a bad bike these days. But it's also true that the whole concept and package is a copy of the Harley is that a bad thing? Nope not really, but it makes you look stupid as hell to deny it

    told you jack i could easily get a 5 page rant going

  12. chillin4
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    Let Steel have his opinion....he's not wrong, you're not wrong...and I'm definitely not wrong......I should go work for the democratic party!

    I can appreciate anyone who owns multiple bikes and give an honest what's what about them. Heck..I have a street bob in my garage right now too! Get out and ride!

  13. Pavbj
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    Hey, Steel! You have to many bikes! Can I have one of your Harleys?

  14. JAG91
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    Steelmachine. I am baffled. You state that you own 3 Raiders. My question is why? You don't seem to be to impressed with them and you bought three! I only know you by what you write and from what I see here you are not very bright.

  15. retzdarraiter
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    Boring!!!! same old story, same old conclusion!!

  16. JAG91
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    dobzbin. Personally I love the Raider. I bought my bike in January and only recently could start piling the miles on because of the shitty New England winter we had. I am not into drag racing the bike but wanted a cruiser that wouldn't bore me. The Raider is the one for me and I am loving every minute of it. I like Harleys but it seems that everyone has one. I enjoy owning a bike that you don't see that often and I get a lot of compliments from all types of riders. Try to find a dealer that will let you ride one and decide for yourself. This post got a little out of hand.

  17. JAG91
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    Vintage, This guy seems like a real dousch bag.

  18. Vindakecar15
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    told you jack i could easily get a 5 page rant going

    how productive.........

  19. zdeelmachinesero
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    how productive.........
    Gave you something to do for two days

  20. kman
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    A few years back I was going to buy a Harley, so I didn't even look around. The Harley dealer wasn't willing to dicker at all and only offered to downsize the bike to reduce the cost. I left the dealership frustrated and decided it was time to look around. So I looked at Suzuki, Kawasaki and finally Yamaha. I saw the Warrior and immediately thought it was the best looking bike I had seen. I then gave it a test ride and decided that was the one for me. Great bike, then the Raider came out and I made the move. I decided to check the Victory just in case something else could turn me on, but no the Raider it was and is.

    Now Harley makes some nice bikes, just not what I want at this time, but it takes some nerve for a Harley 883 rider to dis me for riding a rice burner. I just laughed at him cause I saw how stupid it was.

    Yeah, I like what I ride and think it is the best bike for me and most others for that matter. Ha

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