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Got the Barons ork installed today did it 3 times!!!

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  1. yzcoodermac
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    My kit finally arrived today and I headed down to the basement with the laptop in hand. Went to the Barons custom website and watched the video of installation,while I installed mine.When i got done I thought everything went smooth, wrong!!!!!I looked down after I stood up and there under me was the orange colored seal sitting on the basement floor.CRAP!!!SOOOO I hit rewind and took everything back off .BY the way I did put it on, it must have rolled off!!!Put everything back together annnndddd there under the bike lay a little black seal you know the one that goes where the drain bolt goes.Double craaapppppp!!!!!!So I hit rewind onnce more and finally she was on.Took her for a ride and she still rides the same.lol But it will be really easy next oil change.And I can start saving for the exhaust and jet kit now that is done!!By the way the Barons ork just jumped up in price from $212 to $223 at cruisercustomizing.Yeah Ive got to get a tork cover looks like crap,where the old cover sit. Someone posted here about a month ago and mentioned a way to use your old cover over the ork.See how that maybe could be done.Anyone got any info about this.
    THanks MaC Be safe this Weekend

  2. bkman
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    I liked the look of the stock oil filter cover, and I DID come up with a way to re-use it. It does involve cutting and destroying the OEM cover, though. Be sure you want to do this before you start because there's no going back!

    You have to cut off the lower part of the OEM oil filter cover (the part that sticks down at the 5:00 position. I did it with a hacksaw and a brand-new blade, believe it or not. Anyway, even after you do this, you will find that the cover won't go on all the way. It will not sit flat against the motor case because there will still be a lot of material sticking out the back side. You can either grind out the remaining material until the cover sits flat on the engine case or you can be lazy and do what I did.

    Go to a good hardware store (a real hardware store - not HD or Lowe's) and ask them for some chrome spacers. They should have them in various sizes. You just get two of them, and make sure you get some new stainless socket-head (allen) bolts while you're there. Then you can put the cover back on with the spacers between the OEM oil filter cover and the engine case. There will be a gap there, but it is not really noticable because it is ALL chromed. I was pretty pleased with the result.

    Actually, I think there is someone else here who ground theirs and it turned out OK, too. Honestly, I was worried that, if I ground mine, it might get too hot and dis-color the chrome finish. That is the biggest reason I went with the spacers. Also, the gap between the engine case and the OEM oil filter cover will be a great place to put some LED lights

  3. yzcoodermac
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    Thanks bkman, I am doing some side work as a fitter at rairoad shop here in town while we are off at Mercedes Plant.We have all kinds of cutting devices there,(grinders, saws,etc.)Ill mark the cover and and see what i can do.If it turns out sweet ill post some pics.
    MAC

  4. Ghozd608
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    Just thought I would post this, Pacific Coast Star (WWW.PACIFICCOASTSTAR.COM) carries PHATs oil relocation kit, (basically identical to Barrons) But I don't understand why you are putting the OEM oil filter cover back on, so maybe there is a difference, as the ORK from PCS fills that space with a plane polished chrome oil transfer peice. Also the ORK from PCS cost $219 and comes with 3 extra chrome oil filters. So that is like reducing the price by about $36 if you buy those filters as I believe the chrome filters cost about $12 apiece. Just thought I would post this option.

    Ghost

  5. bkman
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    I put my OEM cover back on because I personally like the look. Also, that's the only place on the whole bike that says "YAMAHA", other than the sticker that was on the rear fender (but that came off as soon as I got the bike home). While I am not crazy about the big branding decals all the manufacturers seem to put on the tanks (I am not even wild about the "Star" logo on mine) the chrome cover is tasteful and subtle.

    I ran mine with no cover for about a week (after I did the ORK) and I just didn't like the look of the flat engine case. I suppose I was just too cheap to buy a cosmetic cover (especially for what they cost) when I could make one from the cover I already had.

  6. Ghozd608
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    bkman.
    That makes total since! I agree with you on the stickers too, its like on my Raider, the bike is red with plames, and then you have on the rear fender gold yamaha? It would have looked better if it was black, I took the yamaha off, and bought aftermarket sticker that is black and says RaideR. looks lots better.

    Ghost

  7. tunc
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    glad to hear ya got it done
    lucky ya saw the parts left over and new u were gunna have to do it again
    bet the third go was a cinch to do
    i'll give ya a call when i do mine (get it soon i hope ) come on down lol

  8. yzcoodermac
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    Hey guys appreciate the input.Thanks for the info ghost.Ive alredy got it on but appreciate your input.The Barons kit comes with preassembled lines and they are swivel.Im sure the phat kit is a good kit too.Ive just talked to a couple of guys on the forum and they turned me on to this kit.Hey tunc after the third time I feel like a pro.LOL Maybe I can come down and ride with ya this summer. Thats right your going into winter soon.Keep it safe Mate.Watch out for the Dingos.LOL
    Mac

  9. yzcoodermac
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    The old cover that you take off has some ugly chrome under it .Ive got the old cover at my dads house.He is taking it the the machine shop on Monday at the pipe shop where he works.They can do a better job than I could with a grinder.Im cutting the old boss competely off .Id like to do away with the Yamaha cover.Maybe come up with some sort of Tuning fork emblem or V star metal emblem.Iv'e taken all the other yamaha Emblems off.Thats the only one left.
    Mac

  10. yzcoodermac
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    Finished the mod on the oil cover after installing th ork.I painted the back side of the boss then placed it on paper to make template. I then cut it out and placed it on the front and traced it with a permanant marker.We then ground the boss off and finished it out with a die grinder.Turned out really well!nice clean finish.Took it slow and finish did not discolor.I also took the yamaha cover off and taped up any area I thought would get scratched.
    Be Safe!!
    MaC

  11. A1zbordztat
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    Just thought I would post this, Pacific Coast Star (WWW.PACIFICCOASTSTAR.COM) carries PHATs oil relocation kit, (basically identical to Barrons) But I don't understand why you are putting the OEM oil filter cover back on, so maybe there is a difference, as the ORK from PCS fills that space with a plane polished chrome oil transfer peice. Also the ORK from PCS cost $219 and comes with 3 extra chrome oil filters. So that is like reducing the price by about $36 if you buy those filters as I believe the chrome filters cost about $12 apiece. Just thought I would post this option.Ghost
    Anybody else have any experience with the ORK from Pacific Coast Star? Since I am putting on the Cobra Slashdowns I'm thinking I better do the ORK as well. From everything I am reading oil changes may be even more of a challenge with the new pipes. I know Barons, Jardine and Pacific Coast Star all have ORK's available. Any others out there worth considering?

    Thanks.

  12. bkman
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    Any others out there worth considering?
    I think you've covered the choices pretty well. I couldn't find anything more when I did my research last summer. I went with the Phat Performance because it was a little less expensive and it uses off-the-shelf Harley Davidson oil filters (US $10 each) that I can get easily (Harley shop ten minutes from where I work). The only complaint I have is that the oil hoses are a pain to put together.

  13. A1zbordztat
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    I think you've covered the choices pretty well. I couldn't find anything more when I did my research last summer. I went with the Phat Performance because it was a little less expensive and it uses off-the-shelf Harley Davidson oil filters (US $10 each) that I can get easily (Harley shop ten minutes from where I work). The only complaint I have is that the oil hoses are a pain to put together.
    bkman, what do you mean when you say the oil hoses are a pain to put together?

  14. yzcoodermac
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    He and I had that discussion before,He means you have to preassemle them I believe.The Barons used to come that way .Alot of people were having trouble with them so Barons started assemleing them.The Barons are also pressed and the are swivel I believe.Barons has a cool video of the complete procedure on their website.I don't think you could go wrong with the PCS or the Phat they are all good Imho.

  15. A1zbordztat
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    I read some of the reviews trying to decide between Barons and PHAT ORK's. A lot of the reviews I saw on the PHAT ORK sited problems with oil leaks at the line connections. I did not see any of these issues sited with the Barons ORK. I am leaning towards the Barons ORK based on that. Thanks for all the feedback.

  16. bkman
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    The Phat oil lines WILL leak if you don't get them together right, and that IS the single problem I have with the product. Don't get me wrong, I have had no leaks - not a drop - with my Phat ORK. However, it took me about an hour to get the kit assembled correctly (in other words, fully seated in the fittings with the clamp fully covering the braided stainless braid over the hose). I did not find this process to be as easy as it could have been but, to me, it was worth the hassle to save the money.

    I have full confidence in the kit if it is correctly assembled. The build quality is excellent and the convenience of using a Harley filter was a big plus to me. Also, the place where the Phat kit mounts does not significantly impact the look of the bike or interfere with most after-market accessories. Finally, the Phat kits (and I believe the Barrons) supposedly have the largest oil lines of any, which is supposed to allow better flow volume. I don't know how much merit there is to that last claim, though.

  17. A1zbordztat
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    bkman, I also like the idea of being able to use the stock Harley filters. I think I will take my chances and hope I can assemble the lines correctly knowing going in that there is a challenge here. Thanks for the input.

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