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Cobra Speedster Longs vs. Lo Boy Shotguns

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  1. BenH163
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    Hey all,

    Going to be putting some custom pipes on my new 2008 1100 classic.

    I had the Lo Boy shotguns on my 2002 - and honestly really liked them.
    I don't know if they had the Speedster Longs back then - i don't remeber seeing them.

    The look of the two pipes is the same, and to be honest I'm a little challenged on hearing the differences between some of these pipes.

    It appears from the description that the Speedster pipes have some level of performance boost - but I'm not really sure if this is worth the extra $200 that these pipes cost over the lo boys (especially if not replacing the stock air flow?).

    Anyone have any input on the differences between these two pipes in terms of quality, sound, or performance?

    Links to them here:
    cobrausa.com/exhaust_detail.php?make_id=6&model_id=87&product_id=1298&make=Yamaha&model=V-Star 1100 Classic&product=Speedster Longs
    cobrausa.com/exhaust_detail.php?make_id=6&model_id=87&product_id=269&make=Yamaha&model=V-Star 1100 Classic&product=Lo-Boy Shotgun

    thanks all

  2. GOINGNUTZ
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    I have the same bike and am looking into the speedster line. Man alive I have listened to countless sound clips which really does not do justice, and they all sound the same. Im not sure if the low boys have the power port that the speedsters have. I hear ya on the price difference, thats why I have yet to get some pipes. Decisions, Decisions

  3. BenH163
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    I'm pretty sure the Lo Boy's don't have the powerport - however I'm not entirely sure I really know what that does, and if it really delivers what it is supposed to.

    I loved my lo-boy's, they were loud... loud enough that they would set off car alarms occassionally as I drove by on the city streets, but not too loud that I couldn't squeak in or out of my lot without neighbors hating me.

    I guess it really boils down to what this powerport is all about, and whether you need anything else (rejetting, new air intake,etc) to take advantage of it.

  4. IADawe
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    To my understanding, and don't quote me on this, opening up the exhaust so the engine can breathe isn't going to get your any performance gains if you also don't open up the intake. If it can't take any extra in, nothing extra is going to go out.

    My personal opinion would be to save the extra money if you aren't going to change the intake also. However, if you plan to change the intake in the near future, than go ahead and get the Speedsters. I just put a set on my 950 and love the look and sound.

  5. GOINGNUTZ
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    the power port suppose to give close to the same performance as a 2into1 system(I hear). Im reading that to get performance gain, rejetting and increasing the airflow at the intake is what needs to be done. Im not so sure that between those 2 pipes the power port will make that much of a differnce to justify the cost difference. Hopefully someone will chime in who has had heard these 2 pipes because Im between the low boys and the slashdowns. I could get some extras with the $200 in the price

  6. BenH163
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    To my understanding, and don't quote me on this, opening up the exhaust so the engine can breathe isn't going to get your any performance gains if you also don't open up the intake. If it can't take any extra in, nothing extra is going to go out. My personal opinion would be to save the extra money if you aren't going to change the intake also. However, if you plan to change the intake in the near future, than go ahead and get the Speedsters. I just put a set on my 950 and love the look and sound.
    So I've never done any changes to the intake on a bike... can anyone explain how the feel and performance of the bike changes? If you can speak specifically to the 1100 that would be great.

  7. quicgmicg
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    So I've never done any changes to the intake on a bike... can anyone explain how the feel and performance of the bike changes? If you can speak specifically to the 1100 that would be great.
    Intake change = best performance gain for the $ than anything else you can do to a V Star 1100. 6 to 8 HP gain with pipes, 3 to 4 without pipes. Doing a DIY pod set up costs barely $100 with jets, bowl screws. It's a brand new bike.

    IADAVE is right on the money.

    How does it change? You'll have to hang on a LOT tighter.

    For pipes? IMO save the $200. Unless there is an obvious quality difference. The performance differences are not very big between the two. Better yet, call Shane at SS Custom Cycle to get it from the horses mouth. He'll give you the low down on both pipes from personal experience.

  8. CruizerBruizer
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    My understanding also is that whenever you change the pipes from stock you have to rejet to realize any gains. Also, the guy I bought Bruiser from didn't rejet when he installed the Ripsaws and I had lots of popping and backfiring until I rejetted, then it went away.

  9. quicgmicg
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    CB, you are right that the exhaust change should require a re-jet. However, the change is such that you could get by for quite a while without. Also, the popping on decel can be controlled through PMS screw adjustment too (richening it slightly 1/8 turns until popping stops).

    I'm the sort to lean mine out just a tad on purpose at night, just so people riding behind me get a nice show of flames shooting out of my Thug Star. Hey, I have to live up the rep of being "long, low and nasty"!....LOL

  10. GOINGNUTZ
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    How are those thug stars? Look like they sound mean and nasty! I love the look but not so sure if they would be for me as a everyday driver.

  11. BenH163
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    Thanks for the info guys - Since I probably should rejet anyway, perhaps I will look into a new intake system so that I am not doubling that work if I decide to add it in the future. As a previous poster stated that I'll "have to hang on a lot tighter" with a custom air intake - can someone be a little more detailed? What particular areas of performance does it affect? Is it max speed? Torque at certain rpm ranges, etc? I'm not really a speed demon on the bike at all, and being used to the control of my old 2002 vstar, I'm wondering if an increase in power will not feel comfortable to me. any advice?

  12. quicgmicg
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    LOL...they are loud and nasty. But, livable. Not quite as loud as they look, but close. I love 'em .... People tell they are about the best sound they've heard out of an 1100. A couple guys I ride with fight to ride behind/beside me because they love the sound....

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