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Brand preference in other nations?

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  1. Suzhipiger
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    I pose this question out of curiosity to our fellow riders in other nations. This is NOT meant to be an H-D bashing thread, so let's not go there.

    Harley-Davidson, being a uniquely American cultural icon gets a lot of business and attention in this country because of it's history, it's longevity, and how it is interwoven into American culture and the greater history of our country. Sometimes we call that phenomenon "Americana".

    So yes in the U.S., there is a lot of brand-bashing between H-D and everyone else but is this prevelant in Canada? Australia? U.K.? Being as H-D isn't such an ingrained part of your national culture, I just can't imagine two guys rolling up to a traffic light and making snarky comments to each other about their brand of bike.

    We like to say that it's not what you ride, just as long as you ride, and I'm thinking that might be closer to the truth in places where one brand doesn't hold such a huge sway over public opinion.

  2. VzdarManiac
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    Lots of HD's in my city and along with that alot of HD idiots. But like my sig says, it's not the bike, but the person on it. Some people need to "think" they have the best.

  3. macrozzfan
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    I spent 16 days bouncing around Japan and didn't see a single Harley.

    Oddly enough, I Oahu, Hawaii (was there two weeks ago) I didn't see a single metric cruiser...all harleys. I say metric sport bikes but no cruisers.

    In Australia Harleys have a really bad rep. My relative (a former motorcycle cop) told me that they overheat constantly so nobody buys them.

  4. tunc
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    have to disagree a little there macrozzfan they still sell well down here if ya can afford one
    down here there a richo type of bike for the yuppies
    although a guy at work just bought one $27,000 au can buy 2 yams for that lol
    and no H-D bashin but they seem to want to only ride with there ownkind H-D so thats cool as long as were ridin
    id say the majority of bikes down here are the roadrockets sports bikes then the dual purpose dirt/road types were got a lot of dirt but the cruiser types are becoming more popular and seein more on the road

    all my opinion but i will see if i can find some stats
    hey sushi stop thinkin so much ya head will explode thinkin of these Q

  5. micg10
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    the harley is very popular where i live and not all of the harley riders here but some of them still think they are superior because they ride harleys, i even get shit from a mate that rides a harley.
    p.s.
    i paid under $12,000 au dollars for my new v star and he paid $19,000 for his used harley!

  6. Suzhipiger
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    Wow. I can't believe this attitude transends national borders. Thanks for the insight.

  7. tunc
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    glad we can throw a bit of light on this for ya from down this way
    and na cant find any stats on numbers of diff models so tough luck lol

  8. micg10
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    i just found out that next march brunswick harley owners group along with harley city of sydney rd melbourne are having a state rally in my town, 700 harley owners, can't wait!

  9. unpitten
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    There are clubs and rides here in RI for 'American Made Only' motorcycles. However, the large majority of HD owners that I encounter are very respectful of others that choose to ride metrics. I actually receive a lot of complements from HD owners when they check out my ride. Most of the ribbing I get is from my buddies that ride HD. LOL, the other night my FatBoy owning buddy was ribbing me stating he had a real motorcycle. As soon as he started his bike the front directional fell off. We fixed it with my 'metric tools'.

  10. KnucgleDrakker
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    Let me start by saying i'm not a psychologist, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn last night but I think a lot of the "attitude" Harley owners are perceived to have has a lot to do with the cost of the bike and is a natural human condition that extends beyond motorcycles.

    When ever a person buys something expensive, whether it is a car, bike, tv, or whatever, especially when they had to work hard, save, sacrifice, etc to be able to afford an item, I think the person has to justify the expense by assuring themselves that it was somehow worth it. By believing that you have bought the best is one way to do that. Without that mental reassurance one would be constantly second guessing their purchase.

  11. Suzhipiger
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    I don't think it's snotty to have an "American-only-Ride" event. At least then, you know where the lines are drawn and you just stay away. It's no different than when I attend a DeLorean event. However, when you go to something like Rolling Thunder which is supposed to be an "open" event and the guy next to you on his Duo-Glide sneers at you, that's when I get disappointed.

    Anyway, I guess it's just "herd mentality". Some people buy a particular product to give them a sense of belonging. If you don't belong to that group, then you're not cool.

    Herd mentality transcends national and cultural boundries and I should have realized that before I asked the original question.

  12. kamezbanger
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    Most of the guys I have seen that talk sh!t about metric bikes don't even own standard ones.

    I understand "American Made" clubs...but I don't understand american made rides. We have H-D rides here sometimes, but all makes are welcome.

    I really would like an 08 Ultra Classic...but I can't justify the expense.

  13. micg10
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    I don't think it's snotty to have an "American-only-Ride" event. At least then, you know where the lines are drawn and you just stay away. It's no different than when I attend a DeLorean event. However, when you go to something like Rolling Thunder which is supposed to be an "open" event and the guy next to you on his Duo-Glide sneers at you, that's when I get disappointed. Anyway, I guess it's just "herd mentality". Some people buy a particular product to give them a sense of belonging. If you don't belong to that group, then you're not cool. Herd mentality transcends national and cultural boundries and I should have realized that before I asked the original question.
    i'm not trying to do the "harley bashing" bit, some of my closest friends are harley riders and they are the best blokes you will ever meet, having said that, on occasions i have had harley riders walking over to check my vstar out realise what it is then turn around with a smart ass look on there face, i know there not all like that tho.

  14. dheziek
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    In my experience, most of the people appreciate the love of riding. There are always a few who are die hard loyal to there brand. I was at a Kawasaki demo ride, and some of the guys were shaking there heads, telling me to drop my crap Yamaha for a much better Kawasaki. Same at the Harley demo. This is amusing, because I know(even if they won't admit it) that everyone lusts after the raw power of the V-max.

  15. macrozzfan
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    I'm a psychologist and I really find the whole HD thing quite amuzing. It's entertaining to analyze them and the sheer amount of self contradiction for purchasing a harley over another bike.

    Recently had a buddy, buy a used 08 nighttrain and bought his wife a victory 8-ball. He says he reason for not even looking at metrics or a triumph Rocket III (which might fit his 300lb body better is that he wants to buy American. . Heck Harley's new CEO doesn't even ride . All this comes from my buddy who last owned a honda, and a buell rocket, bought and restored a Toyota Landcruiser over a Jeep, and drives a Landrover rather than an American Truck. Its as if his inner Jarhead won't let him admit that another bike can compete with HD. He's also a major tightwad type always looking for the best bang for the buck....instead he spends 15g on a used nighttrain when he could have a new raider or rocket III for 12-13g.

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